Episode 5 Stay or Go? When to quit your job
Sarah tackles a dilemma that most professionals face at some point in their careers: Should I stay in my job, or is it time to leave? She explores the red flags that signal it’s time to move on, how to assess whether your dissatisfaction is fixable, and how to make a robust decision that aligns with your values and goals. Sarah also shares a step-by-step diagnostic to help you gain clarity and confidence in your next career move.
Whether you’re feeling stuck, plateauing, or just unsure about your next step, this episode is packed with practical advice to guide you.
Episode Show Notes:
[00:00:00] Introduction:
Welcome to Unstuck and Unstoppable. Sarah introduces the show and today’s topic, sharing why the decision to stay or leave a job is so challenging.
[00:02:00] Clear Indicators It’s Time to Leave:
Toxic work environments, mental health impacts, and lack of change or growth opportunities.
[00:03:00] Subtler Signs of Dissatisfaction:
Boredom, plateauing, or feeling stuck despite great perks or pay.
[00:04:00] Diagnostic Questions to Gain Clarity:
How to evaluate what’s wrong with your job and whether it can be fixed.
[00:05:30] Assessing Growth Opportunities:
Looking internally for new challenges, projects, or lateral moves within your organization.
[00:06:30] Pros and Cons of Leaving vs. Staying:
Weighing the benefits and trade-offs of each option.
[00:07:30] Energy and Values Check-In:
How energy levels and values alignment impact your career satisfaction and decision-making.
[00:09:00] Conversations to Have:
Talking to your boss, HR, mentors, or coaches to explore options and gain perspective.
[00:10:00] Setting a Deadline for Decision-Making:
Avoiding indecision by setting a firm timeline for your next steps.
[00:11:00] Preparing for Your Next Move:
Defining criteria for your next role, whether internal or external, and making time for your search or preparation.
[00:12:30] Sarah’s Final Takeaway:
“No decision is ever wrong; it’s simply the decision you made at the time.”
Remember: Shine brightly. Lead boldly. Be unstoppable.
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Transcript
Welcome to Unstuck and Unstoppable,
the podcast for ambitious female
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:leaders who want to create more impact,
income, and influence in their careers.
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:feel connected to their passion
and purpose, but without
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:selling out or burning out.
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:I'm Sarah Archer, a leadership coach
and career strategist, helping women
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:like you thrive in leadership roles
while staying true to your values.
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:I'm the founder of CareerTree
Coaching and have over 15 years of
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:coaching experience and significant HR
leadership experience to share with you.
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:I know as a female leader it can
be hard to find time to focus
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:on your career aspirations.
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:The day job can be all consuming.
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:Plus, no matter how senior you are,
there are always going to be times
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:when you feel stuck, when you have
self doubt, or feel like an imposter.
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:And that's where unstuck
and unstoppable comes in.
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:Each week I'll be sharing practical
strategies, insightful interviews and
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:inspiring stories to help you boost
your confidence, lead with purpose
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:and achieve sustainable success.
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:If you're ready to stop playing
small and unlock the incredible
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:potential you have within you and feel
unstoppable, you're in the right place.
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:Let's get started.
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:Welcome to episode five.
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:I'm so glad you're here.
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:Today's topic is one that I know a
lot of people wrestle with, , when's
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:the right time to leave my job?
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:Should I stay or should I go?
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:, And, that decision is one that can
end up being a circular question that
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:can keep you awake at night or wake you
up early because you don't have that
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:clarity around, when's the right time.
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:And it can sometimes feel
a bit paralyzing as well.
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:There are some times in your career
when it's very clear that you need to
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:go, so if something's toxic, so you've
got toxic colleagues, toxic boss, toxic
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:culture, or, your job is affecting
your mental health or your confidence.
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:Or you can't see how the overload is ever
going to end where you can feel there's
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:no change, it's just going to get worse.
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:when you've got that amount of red
flags going on, that you've got to
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:make a decision to leave because
otherwise it's going to seriously
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:impact your health and your confidence.
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:It'll be harder to leave,
but often it's less clear.
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:So it might be that you're
just feeling a bit better.
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:bored in your job, maybe everything
feels a bit too easy, maybe you're,
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:, plateauing, you feel like you've
achieved everything you set out to
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:achieve, , or maybe the perks are too
good and you're thinking, well, I'd
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:be mad to give this up, wouldn't I?
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:I've got the great flexibility, or the
pay is amazing, or,, something else.
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:Or maybe you're somebody who
likes variety and newness and
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:it just feels like it's more of
the same going on in your role.
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:Or you're questioning yourself
about, , am I ready for that next role?
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:Can I step up?
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:Can I take on that bigger,
more challenging role?
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:And all of those questions or those
feelings can lead to, well, it's okay.
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:There's nothing really
pushing me to leave.
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:So therefore, I've got to
wait for something to pull me.
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:And if neither of those things
are present, then you're in
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:this no man's land of.
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:Well, I'll just carry on.
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:What I've got now is a bit of a
diagnostic that you can do to help you,
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:feel, dog is always barking when I'm
on live, to feel, that you're taking
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:some control and some agency and you can
then make the right decision for you.
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:, first thing to do is to ask
yourself what is actually wrong
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:in my current job at the moment?
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:What's the thing that's missing or
the thing that I'm not enjoying?
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:Be really specific, really drill
down into what is going on so you
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:can understand what is creating this
sense of dissatisfaction that might
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:be a indicator it's time to go.
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:That's the first thing to do, work out
what is it, , that's not there or that's,
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:, not working for you at the moment.
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:Then you want to think about,
okay, is this a real issue that's
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:not going to get any better?
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:Or is it something that I could
take some action on to improve
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:or to change my situation?
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:, if you're feeling a bit like you're
plateauing and you've got no stretch,
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:, maybe it's looking, is there a
project that I would like to lead?
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:Or is there a piece of work that
I would like to get my into?
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:Or are there training or learning
opportunities that I could push for,
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:or is there a chance to step up or
act up in some way or take on a, more
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:challenging role within my team?
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:Can I identify the kind of challenge that
would be something that would make me want
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:to get up and go to work in the morning?
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:can I see there are stretch
opportunities , in the role.
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:And this is also where you
can then do a bit of scanning.
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:So you could scan in the organization,
are there vertical or lateral moves
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:available that would make me excited?
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:Because if it's quite a flat structure,
and people tend to stay in their roles,
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:, and you know that that's actually
something that you want is to move up in
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:your career and you can't see how that's
possible, then that's obviously going to
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:be an indicator for change in some way.
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:And then you could also ask
yourself the question, well,
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:what would leaving give me?
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:that I can't get.
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:In a way?
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:What are the pros of going?
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:And then also thinking
about what would I miss?
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:Because there are going to be things
that, , are positive about what you
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:do, or your organization or your team
and thinking about trying to weigh up.
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:What it would give me, but
actually what would I lose?
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:Because any kind of decision to
go, you're saying yes to something,
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:but no to something else.
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:It's understanding what are
the compromises that I'd be
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:making if I was going to move.
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:Or if I was going to stay.
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:Then you can do some check ins.
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:The first check in would
be, what's my energy like?
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:Because any kind of
change requires energy.
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:, if you're going to start searching
for a new job, or you're going to
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:push for promotion internally, that is
going to require that a certain amount
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:of energy and appetite for change.
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:And you need to do a kind of check in.
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:What do I feel like now?
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:What else is going on in my life
that, I might need energy for?
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:And is this the right time?
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:So that can be quite helpful.
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:The second check in is
to do a values check in.
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:, being aligned to our values
will bring us great satisfaction
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:and fulfillment in our careers.
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:But if something changes in our values
or the organization's or team's values,
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:then that can create a misalignment.
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:You want to do a check in, and
it's quite useful to do a check
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:in thinking about role, person, i.
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:e.
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:you, and organization.
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:, if the organization's values have
changed in some way, so maybe there's
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:been a leadership change or maybe the
organization is moving in a direction
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:that now doesn't sit with your values,
then , you can understand why that
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:might be causing dissatisfaction and
it might be that means it's a time
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:for a change of organizational sector.
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:If, the role, so your values, , don't
seem to align with your role anymore,
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:so you can't have the impact that you
want through your role, , that it might
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:be that you have outgrown that role.
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:, and so maybe your values around challenge
or stretch or, creativity might not
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:be being met through your role.
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:It could be that it means you're
needing to move up and get more.
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:challenge either through a
leadership role or some different,
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:, project , or area of work.
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:That could mean that it's either
an internal or external, , shift.
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:If your values personally don't align
with your role or organization anymore,
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:because let's face it, , sometimes we
choose our careers early in our lives.
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:So in our twenties, and
as we grow and develop as
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:individuals, our values can change.
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:And it might be that they no longer
feel like they're being fulfilled
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:those values for you personally.
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:That might mean that actually
what you really need is a career
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:change of some description.
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:So you can find something that
aligns with your values even more.
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:Doing that values check in
piece is super important.
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:, and then you can also do a passion check
in, which is aligned with the values, but
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:you can think about what's happened to my
passion, my energy, my drive for my job.
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:Is it still there?
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:When did it dissipate if it's not there?
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:Can I get it back?
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:What's, missing from it?
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:Doing this kind of diagnostic is helpful
at helping you make the right decision.
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:, and then what you can do is you can
start to talk to people internally.
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:So you could talk to your boss, , because
generally, and if you're a boss yourself,
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:if you're a manager yourself, you will
know you don't want to lose good people.
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:You want to keep them.
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:And if it's possible, your boss might
have some creative ideas about what
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:would give you a stretch challenge.
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:In your existing role or organization.
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:Similarly, you can talk to HR.
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:HR don't want to lose good people either.
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:, and they might be able to see
other openings or opportunities
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:elsewhere in the organization.
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:Or if it's a global organization,
other, , parts of the business
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:where you could be successful.
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:Or if you have a mentor, it
could be a great thing to be
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:able to bounce around with them.
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:, what's going to be the right
thing for you to do right now.
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:And if you don't have a mentor, it could
be that's part of the missing piece.
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:And you might be thinking,
actually, I need to find a
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:mentor as part of this process.
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:Or a coach that could be another option
as well And then what can also be helpful
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:is to put a date in your calendar to
make the decision so that this doesn't
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:drag on and on and you're feeling like
just never gonna get to this point where
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:i'm clear about what I want to do So
setting yourself a deadline of this day.
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:I'm going to make a decision It can be
really helpful And then when you've got
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:that decision, you want to then get clear
about your criteria for the next thing.
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:And doing the work I've just talked you
through, that diagnostic piece, can be
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:helpful at understanding the criteria for
your next role, whether that's internally
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:or externally, because you don't just
want to move to something without having
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:thought about what the elements it's got
to have for it to be the right next thing
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:for you, because you don't want to just go
for the, Oh, it's new, it'll be exciting.
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:And then in six months time, be back
to where you were right now in terms of
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:the boredom or challenge, , getting
that criteria, clear is super important.
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:And if you are thinking, okay, I want
to go for an internal promotion or I
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:want to go externally, you need to think
about the job search piece or the self
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:promotion piece internally and setting
aside time to actually invest in that
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:because we all know, , job searching
or laying the groundwork foundation
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:for promotion will require time and
energy and headspace to do that.
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:, it's important to be clear about, okay,
if I want this to be successful, I'm
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:going to have to set aside time for it.
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:, if you, , need help with any of this,
cause you don't have to do it all
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:on your own, either the making the
decision or preparing for promotion
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:or, , job search, , a career coach.
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:And I often work with clients around these
areas can be super helpful at just helping
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:you make the progress you need to make and
making the right choices for you in terms
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:of what's right for you in your career.
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:, so if that's going to be something you're
interested in, do message me and we can
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:set up a call to have a chat about it.
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:I want to leave you with a quote,
which I think is quite helpful.
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:That no decision is ever made.
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:It's the wrong decision.
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:It's the decision you made at the time.
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:Because sometimes we get so hung
up on it's got to be the right
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:decision that we get paralyzed and
we can't make that decision at all.
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:Remember there's no wrong decision, , it's
just the decision you made at the time.
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:But if you do that prep work that I've
just talked you through, then , you
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:know the decision you're going to make
is going to be as robust as it can be.
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:To recap for you, do that diagnostic.
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:Take yourself through all those
questions about what's possible, what's
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:missing, what do my values telling me?
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:What's my energy telling me?
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:What's my passion telling me?
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:What's possible in the
organization I'm currently in?
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:And then thinking about
who do I need to talk to?
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:What's my date for making a decision?
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:What do I need to get clear about in terms
of what's going to happen next for me?
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:And where do I., plan out my preparation.
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:I hope that's been useful for you.
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:And you're a bit clearer now about how
to work out, whether you should stay
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:or whether you should leave your job.
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:This episode is also available as a video.
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:You can watch it on LinkedIn live
and I'll put a link in the show
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:notes to that particular episode.
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:And of course, if you're over on
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:Thank you so much for listening
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:and Unstoppable podcast.
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:Remember, you're capable of more
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:Lead boldly and unlock the
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:Be unstoppable.